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residentevilrulz
Pondweed
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 Posted - 13/09/2009 : 05:57:48
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| I have 2 Asian Black Spine toads, as some of you may know. The female seems to be fine but the male has stopped eating and I've noticed that a white circle has formed in each eye near the pupil. What is this? I've read about fat build-up with toads and frogs due to overfeeding of mice but I've never once given him a mouse. He's only eaten crickets. Thanks |
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lewy
The Amphibian Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/09/2009 : 09:35:02
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I'm not sure what the white circles are, but a diet of just crickets may not be the best for him either, Mix their diet up and feed various things, they get bored of just one food all the time just like we do. Try medium Dubia Roaches, woodlice, worms, locusts, spiders, the odd small mealworm as a treat. Also make sure you gut load all the food and dust regularly with calcium and vitamins. Hopefully these will get him eating again.
There are livefood care sheets on the main website (bottom of the page)- which should help you get the most from your feeder insects:
http://www.theamphibian.co.uk/amphibian_care_sheet.htm
As for the white stuff near each eye I'd get him to the vets to check out what it is, how old is he? could it be a form of cataracts?
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Kazerella
The Amphibian Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/09/2009 : 12:01:37
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Is the white actually in the eye or is it growing on the eye?
If it's something on the eye it might be a fungal infection.
Probably best to take it to the vets. Any pictures? |
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residentevilrulz
Pondweed
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Posted - 24/09/2009 : 09:06:51
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| Sorry it's taken me so long to reply. I have waited to because I don't know if I should be worried or not.. the toad is still eating and has a healthy weight. He's just as he always was. I can tell his vision is obstructed though because he can only see his prey at certain angles, where as the female can see her prey with a normal field of vision. The white appears to have grown overtop of the eyes rather than inside of them. The growths have not gotten any bigger since I posted this so maybe he'll be ok? I don't know.. I am worried about him but somehow I think he'll be alright. |
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Kehhlyr
The Amphibian Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/09/2009 : 14:35:24
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Do they shed the mucusy part of their skin??
I know my froggy does, if your toad does anything like it, is it possible he got some stuck in his eye??
Does sound weird, but I had a beardie with cress stuck in it's eye once. |
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residentevilrulz
Pondweed
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Posted - 24/09/2009 : 21:26:24
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| I was actually wondering if that's possible and the only reason I doubt that it is is because it's in both eyes. |
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Kehhlyr
The Amphibian Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/09/2009 : 00:41:11
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| Can you get a nice close up piccy?? |
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residentevilrulz
Pondweed
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Posted - 03/10/2009 : 09:10:39
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Sorry this took me so long... but as you can see by the photo, he is a healthy weight. He still eats too. But he can no longer make vocalizations. He always used to when I'd pick him up. He still tries to but no sound comes out and his throat is a firey red. It used to just be normal colored. Here is a photo though so you can see the eye problem
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=wlt83l&s=4 |
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Kazerella
The Amphibian Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/10/2009 : 20:32:12
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I've just been looking through my amphibian diseases and disorders info and it says that:
'Reddened skin on underside of pet, ulcers on toes, bloating and cloudy eyes' are symptoms of red leg disease!
If that's what your toad has got then he needs to go to the vet asap because it's serious and he'll need anti-biotics, but in the mean time salt baths and sanitized environment can help. You will need to separate him from the female too. When one of our toads gets ill we put him in a tank alone with only damp kitchen roll and a water bowl with both changed daily. These super sanitized conditions will usually help with most amphibian disorders, as well as protecting your other toad.
I really hope it's not Red Leg - please see a vet and say I'm wrong 
I'm crossing my fingers it's a build up of nitrates in the water that's causing the eye thing  |
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Kazerella
The Amphibian Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/10/2009 : 20:47:54
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I found this:
Red Leg syndrome:
in most amphibians this disease can be traced to poor water quality and is usually the result of bacteria such as Aeromonas . Symptoms can include sloughing of the skin or the classic sign of enlarged rear legs that look swollen or "Red". The cause of the red leg is from blood capillaries that rupture below the skin. Also at times the eyes can glaze over and appear opaque. This symptom is common for other diseases of amphibians, so don't treat for Red Leg if this is the only symptom.
Hope that's a good sign |
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residentevilrulz
Pondweed
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Posted - 08/10/2009 : 20:40:13
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| Thanks Kaz. I hope it's not red leg.. If it is though, I wonder how this could happen because I keep the water very clean. As far as the nitrates thing, I'm not sure about that because I also have another toad of his species(which you know), a Cane Toad, an Argentine Horned Frog, and a Surinam Horned Frog none of them share the symptoms. Baahhh |
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Kazerella
The Amphibian Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/10/2009 : 08:59:39
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I hope it isn't red leg too - and I think because it's been going on a while there is hope- I thought Red leg was fast and sudden??? Plus I would've thought your other toad would share the same symptoms.
Vet's the best bet, although I would make sure they know about amphibians before you go. Even some rep vets struggle with amphibians
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Toad eye problem. PLEASE HELP!
