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nikk
Frog Spawn
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 Posted - 25/03/2010 : 15:47:42
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| I've had my worm "nessie" for over 20 years. About 3 days ago she developed small white spots on her skin. She also seems to be uncomfortable as she is not burrowing but hanging out. I'm not finding any info on this and am mildly concerned. She has been part of the family for a while. No one can seem to tell me what this is or what to use to treat it without hurting her. I have been using an all ntural product for ich and a few other things for a few days now but not sure this is right. All the fish in tank seem fine and I had ich abiut 12 years ago and dont remember it affecting her. Any ideas out there would be greatly appreciated. Nikk |
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Ade
Tadpole
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/03/2010 : 18:20:44
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I've not got a clue about caecillian's, but could it be small patches of fungus? About all I can find related to healthy problems with them is that they can get Saprolegnia fungus infections in tiny wounds. Might be worth looking at under a magnifying glass, and perhaps treating with an anti fungal perhaps?
I am sure though that somebody with more knowledge and experience with these will be along with a better answer. ;)
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Kazerella
The Amphibian Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/03/2010 : 19:58:06
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I've not heard of it before unfortunately, but I would be tempted to say it would be a kind of fungal or bacterial infection. Have you got any pictures so we can have a look?
When my toad had a fungal infection we treated him with daily 10 minute baths of a weak water and methelene blue solution, but not sure if that would be any good for an aquatic caecilian. 
I would separate from the fish if possible. What temperature is he currently at?
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nikk
Frog Spawn
USA
89 Posts |
Posted - 25/03/2010 : 22:41:00
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| Currently the tank is at 81 degrees, only because someone told me that if it is ich this should help. It kinda looks like ich but there again she didnt get it last time. It just doesnt look like a bacterial infection to me. I'm no doc though. She seems uncormfotable as she is just hanging around rather than hide and burrow. I did take some pretty good pics, but dont know if I know how to put on your site. If maybe you could explain or I could email the pics. Thanks so much for help. Nikk |
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Ade
Tadpole
United Kingdom
153 Posts |
Posted - 25/03/2010 : 23:43:48
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You have to use an external image hosting service, like photobucket or imageshack, Nikk. Personally though I use the gallery system on one of my own sites. Then you copy and paste the address of the image onto your post, and put [>img] before the address and [>/img] after the address, removing the > they're just there to stop the forum from thinking those are real bbcode tags and removing them (not sure if they have code tags on here. lol). There is a full guide to doing this using photobucket here that should help.
Ade
PS. Raising the temp does help with ich, above a certain temperature the flagellate parasites that cause the condition all become free swimming, treatments only real work well on them when free swimming and barely touch them when they are cysts on you livestock. Usually if fish get ich, with the exception of when you add new stock, this is because there is something there stressing them. In this case it's most likely your caecilian, might be an idea though to run a full range of water tests.  |
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nikk
Frog Spawn
USA
89 Posts |
Posted - 26/03/2010 : 20:28:30
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| Not really good with computers, as you can tell, but will see if my wife can help. We do have areally good aquarium/reptile shop here in st louis, and I immediatly took water up for testing as I thought it might be stress, but water came back perfect. I've heard that the caecilians even like it a bit higher on ammonia than I have it. I havent added fish for a while as I normally have a stable tank. I've been talking with friends and acouple of them feel since she is over 20 years old it may be old age. Which is fine we cant stop that but its my understanding that here in US we cant buy or sell them anymore. Not sure this is true or not, just what I've heard. I just want to do whatever to keep her around a little longer. I am still treating water with "kordon ich attack" an organic substance and it doesnt appear to be worse. |
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nikk
Frog Spawn
USA
89 Posts |
Posted - 26/03/2010 : 20:43:05
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Hopefully this pic will show!! |
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nikk
Frog Spawn
USA
89 Posts |
Posted - 26/03/2010 : 20:55:28
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Sorry I think I fo rgot to re size the last one. |
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Herpvet
Pondweed
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/03/2010 : 13:33:03
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Hello,
I would certainly recommend getting the animal to a vet if at all possible. There are various possibilities for the lesions pictured, and they should really be assessed by a vet experienced with amphibians. Fungal would be high on the list but these would need further tests to determine the cause and most effective treatment.
Hope you can get her sorted out.
Bruce.
quote]Originally posted by nikk
Not really good with computers, as you can tell, but will see if my wife can help. We do have areally good aquarium/reptile shop here in st louis, and I immediatly took water up for testing as I thought it might be stress, but water came back perfect. I've heard that the caecilians even like it a bit higher on ammonia than I have it. I havent added fish for a while as I normally have a stable tank. I've been talking with friends and acouple of them feel since she is over 20 years old it may be old age. Which is fine we cant stop that but its my understanding that here in US we cant buy or sell them anymore. Not sure this is true or not, just what I've heard. I just want to do whatever to keep her around a little longer. I am still treating water with "kordon ich attack" an organic substance and it doesnt appear to be worse.
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nikk
Frog Spawn
USA
89 Posts |
Posted - 27/03/2010 : 16:56:43
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| Any idea what we might be looking at here?? Thanks for link to post pics! |
Edited by - nikk on 27/03/2010 16:58:07 |
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Kazerella
The Amphibian Administrator
United Kingdom
969 Posts |
Posted - 29/03/2010 : 11:14:36
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I also think it might be a fungal infection.
I know with salamanders you can treat by lowering the temps to fridge degrees, but I'm a bit out of my depth with caecilians, so I'd look into it more before trusting that advice. |
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