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Kazerella
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Posted - 27/02/2010 :  18:58:28  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know if it's possible to overfeed a axolotl larvae?

The big, blonde meany axie is eating loads! I give him what I believe is a more than ample ration (in comparrison to the amounts his brothers/sisters can handle) and it's just gone within hours. He's having 2-3 massive meals a day and I still think he'd take more, whereas his siblings don't even eat half as much.

Any ideas?


Kehhlyr
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Posted - 01/03/2010 :  04:52:52  Show Profile  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I would imagine it is, it's possible to overfeed any aquatic life.

However larval stages of animals can quite often eat a huge amount more than any other stage of life.

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Kazerella
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  13:32:42  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The big, blonde meany axie (now aptly named Atilla) is a monster. I'm sure if I put my fingers in the tank for long enough he'd eat them


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Kazerella
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Posted - 12/03/2010 :  10:12:55  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Next size up suggestions

Thought I'd tag onto this thread in stead of starting another...

Has anyone got any suggestions on the next size up food source I could offer to my little axies?

Bloodworm is doing well, but it's not touching the sides , yet they are a bit small for earthworms (plus I'm not that keen on chopping them up).

I also don't want to try brine shrimp because I'd be worried sick that I'd not got all the salt water off.

Can anyone think of anything else that might go down well?


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lewy
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Posted - 12/03/2010 :  19:44:32  Show Profile  Visit lewy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't mind chopping the worms, maybe we can buy some small ones online?

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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 12/03/2010 :  22:54:06  Show Profile  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Water daphnia??
You feeding live or frozen bloodworms?

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Kazerella
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Posted - 15/03/2010 :  11:46:16  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Live- they don't seem that bothered about frozen ones. Plus Atilla seems to think he's a shark and likes to creep up and swoop on his potential prey. I don't think it would be as much fun for him if they weren't moving.

We can't seem to get big daphnia at our local shop. They are tiny when we get them so each axie needs about 100 to fill him


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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 16/03/2010 :  01:14:40  Show Profile  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'm trying to think of anything else that they could try.
What about water shrimp? You can quite often catch them fairly easily in small brooks and similar.

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Kazerella
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Posted - 16/03/2010 :  10:46:55  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We are considering pond dipping, but a lot of people frown upon it because there's a risk of introducing parasites and bad insects that prey on larvae.

I'm on the look out for some axolotl pellets as I think Atilla and Timujin are big enough to start taking them. The other two might still be a bit little, but their appetite is still strong for blood worm. It's Atilla who seems to be getting bored with his diet.

Lewy is going worm hunting today to find suitable ones of the sals and toads so he might get lucky and find some really small ones.

Unless anyone can think of a way of making slugs safer to eat? I tried keeping some alive for a week in an old cricket tub(to ensure they hadn't been near any slug pellets and purge their stomachs) but they died before it got to feeding time


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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 17/03/2010 :  01:05:12  Show Profile  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
How damp was the cricket tub?
Just give it a nice spray with some water, and put a small bit of plastic similar to the 'bag for life' plastic bags from sainburys in there, and they should hopefully hide undeneath that.
Keep them somewhere nice and cool(ish) and somewhere dark with a bit of lettuce leaf and that should purge them.

Lettuce leaf is what I believe is the best for purging because it has real health benefits for many animals, so the slugs will essentially be eating hardened green water while they clear their systems.
This has other benefits as well, because some slugs will eat the green stalks off onions, and leeks and similar plants in the same family, some of these can be bad for the health of some aquatic animals, so a slug that's got a belly full of leek could potentially cause issues with the axies.

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Kazerella
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Posted - 17/03/2010 :  14:21:08  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I will have to try that. The tub was damp last time, so I put the deaths down to overheating.

The slugs wouldn't get leeks anyway- no one likes leeks in our house

Would carrot be as good as lettuce? Just thinking that we don't usually have much salad stuff in.


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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 17/03/2010 :  17:46:16  Show Profile  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
From recollection don't carrots have loads of vitamin A?
If so, then they should be ok; make them nice and damp for the slugs as they don't touch it much if they start drying.

I'm sure that slugs that have been dosed up with carrots would be carrying a fair bit of Vitamin A, which is an essential vitamin for healthy skin/eyes in 'phibs.

You'd win both ways then.
Sounds like a good plan to use carrots, like I said though make sure they're nice and damp because if they're anything like GALS then they wont touch them much if the sides of the carrot dry up a bit.
To keep them nice and chuffed and to encourage eating add a small amount of beer* (teaspoon full) to a small jar lid and put in with them as no slugs or snails will refuse beer.


*proper beer or preferably a nice smooth bitter like Creamflow, not the fizzy canned wee that is bought by 17 year olds with fake ID's.


/quick edit

I thought carrots contained vitamin A, there seems to be disputed info in regards that because they have beta-carotene which the body can turn into vitamin A apparently.
And Vitamin A is good for 'phibs as well.
Woo, that's 3 things I've got right now.

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Edited by - Kehhlyr on 17/03/2010 17:51:56
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Kazerella
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Posted - 18/03/2010 :  13:30:09  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Carrots it is then!

Will send lewy out slug hunting next time it rains. Plus a tip in the population might keep the little bliters off the veggies in the raised bed too


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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 18/03/2010 :  17:13:48  Show Profile  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Get some ducks, they'll keep the slug population down.
I haven't seen one slug or snail in my garden since I had the ducks.

Mind you, I haven't seen anything growing in the garden since I had the ducks.

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Kazerella
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Posted - 22/03/2010 :  18:28:00  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ummmm pancakes and hoi sin sauce


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Mazz
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Posted - 28/03/2010 :  17:21:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, i'm a newbie and this is only my second post so i hope its ok to join in?!

I dont know what size your axies are but if theyre big enough have you tried red wiggler worms from a fishing bait shop? they are thinner and smaller than normal garden worms, my axies love them and so do i as i dont need to cut them up!! (although my axies are 7inch long now so can manage whole worms most of the time now thank goodness)

Also, if you'd like some pellets to try i have some i can send you if you'd like, i have tried 2 sizes of hard sinking pellets - my axies eat them occasionally but never seem very keen so you're welcome to some to try yours on. I have ordered some soft sinking pellets to try them on now which i hope will be more interesting to them as i imagine the soft texture will be more worm like! (the smaller of the 2 pellets that i already have were sold online as 'soft' but they definitely arent unless soaked in water for a few hours lol!!)

Best wishes
Maxx

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Edited by - Mazz on 28/03/2010 17:28:59
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