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Saures
Pondweed
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09/06/2010 : 14:50:37
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Just curious to whether these are suitable for one or two whites tree frogs.
Exo Terra Invertebrate Habitat Reptile Terrarium Kit: Amazon.co.uk: Kitchen & Home
Exo Terra Reptile Desert Vivarium / Terrarium Habitat Kit Medium 45x45x45cm: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors
Exo Terra Reptile Glass Terrarium / Vivarium 30x30x45cm: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors
What else would I need with the tank?
How many could I fit in the most suitable one?
And how much do the frogs cost in england? |
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Ade
Tadpole
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/06/2010 : 15:35:06
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I would reccomend the desert kit. I have the same size terrarium for my 3 White's, and I believe that the desert heat mat is better than the rainforest one.
You are also going to want substrate (I prefer eco-earth personally, a cocounut substrate that looks like compost), a water bowl (unless you go naturalistic with a water area), possibly a 2nd heat mat (I use 2, 1 for warmth on the side, and 1 to help keep the humidity at the right level fitted to the bottom of the terrarium), some form of lighting (UV isn't supposed to be essential, but some folks like me use reptile lamps with UV anyway), thermostat, thermometer, hygrometer (tells you the humidity), live insects for food (crickets are a good start, my frogs grew and prefer hoppers now) and dusting powder supplements (if you go with UV ones with vitamins are less essential, but you still need to dust with calcium).
In a 45x45x45 I wouldn't try to keep more than 2 or 3. They're large and active frogs. In the UK prices for a juvenile vary between about £13 and £25 each in my experience.
There's a good care sheet on the main site, and lots of posts on here detailing how folks keep these, and questions and answers.
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Saures
Pondweed
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/06/2010 : 16:35:21
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| Would it be possible to keep a pair in a 30x30x45cm tank? |
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Ade
Tadpole
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/06/2010 : 10:24:16
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No. 30x30x45 is too small for anything but juveniles. Don't fall into the trap of getting one with the plan to buy a bigger one when they grow, as you will find yourself buying a new one in about 4 weeks after... White's tree frogs grow shockingly quickly. IMHO 45x45x45 is the smallest size you should use, and if you can afford and fit it in bigger is better. For one thing, opening the doors will be safer, one of my frogs regularly tries to escape when we feed them, jumping from the back of the terrarium straight into the top of the door...
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Saures
Pondweed
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/06/2010 : 16:24:23
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I have decided to get a 45x45x60 tank just because I wanted a taller tank and I think it would be more interesting. Would you recommend me getting a fogger? or something along those lines to keep the humidity up?
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Ade
Tadpole
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/06/2010 : 22:16:56
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Nope, you don't need that much humidity with Whites. You can either mist using a sprayer, or use the method I have used:-
Put a layer of aquarium pebbles (not gravel, it's too small and can be swallowed) leaving a beach area into bare glass. Cover the pebbles with some sort of water permeable material (weed membrane or the like, or I used Hydro Fleece sold for the purpose), then on top of this put your eco earth.
When you fill the water hole, you also fill the gravel area to the same depth, meaning you have a reservoir of water without having enough for your frogs to drown in as you only put in enough water to cover them part way up, increasing the depth as they grow. I put live willow moss in mine as well, gives them a surface that they seem to like.
This, combined with a heat mat on the bottom, means that water is been warmed, and small amounts evaporated, keeping humidity perfect. My hygrometer sits on between 50 and 60 (50 on cooler days, 60 on very warm days), and I NEVER need to mist.
It's fairly cheep to do, and also makes cleaning very simple, I just wash it through into the water area, drain it, and refill. I also have tropical dwarf woodlice and springtails in there as well as custodians which SERIOUSLY help to keep a clean healthy terrarium.  One thing that will shock you is the size of White's tree frog poops, they're BIG. lol
But yeah, before this I just misted twice a day, but found it a bit of a chore, and on very hot days it can be inadequate.
You can get an idea of how good this can look in my pics thread http://www.theamphibian.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=430&whichpage=1 including how quickly my frogs grew.  It's changed even more, most of the plastic plants have been removed now. I also have a BIG pothos sat on top that I bought to go in there, but it's just a bit too large.
Oh and a 45x45x60 is absolutely spot on for 2 or 3 frogs. I would have liked that size myself. 
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Saures
Pondweed
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2010 : 09:07:33
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That's a nice idea actually :D
Your tree frogs are actually so adorable!!
Thankyou for all the help and tips :D I really appreciate it! |
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Tanks for White's Tree Frogs.
